Off the CUPF: Community Use of Public Facilities

Let's Talk About It, A Conversation About Athletic Fields

Derek Ross and Ramona Bell-Pearson Season 1 Episode 8

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This podcast episode discusses the general usage of school athletic fields that can be reserved through CUPF. Listen as CUPF Director, Ramona Bell-Pearson and Communications and Outreach Specialist, Derek Ross, clarify athletic field usage pertaining to the user experience. In this podcast, Ramona and Derek will be joined by CUPF Financial Administrator, Vanessa Lopez-Cuevas and Operations Manager, Ron Maxson Jr. Learn more about the athletic field reservation process and the difference between artificial and grass fields, which also includes field maintenance. Stay tuned as we look forward to revisiting this hot topic at a later date.

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Introduction to Off the Cup Podcast

Speaker 1

Welcome to Off the Cup a community use of public facilities podcast. We are one of many county government podcasts that focus on sustainability and innovation, all while making sure our community is aware of the services the county provides. Are you looking to reserve an outdoor indoor facility at a library, school or county building? How about the Silver Spring Civic Building at Veterans Plaza or the Clarksburg Cottage in Montgomery County, maryland? Available venues are here to be reserved and we are the office that can make it happen. We are Cuff and thank you for joining our community podcast. Let's get started.

Speaker 2

Here we go, here we go. We are back for another episode. I think it's episode seven. Ramona Off the Cuff Community Use of Public Facilities Podcast. That is us. That is us, and welcome back Once again. My name is Derek Ross. I'm the communications outreach specialist with Cuff and it's always a pleasure to be joined by our director, ramona Bell-Pearson. How you doing, ramona?

Speaker 1

I'm doing fine, derek. How are you doing?

Speaker 2

I'm okay, I'm okay you know it's fresh. We fresh with this new podcast and, of course, of course, we have some, some guests with us. We have Vanessa, we have Ron we're gonna get into that later on but, ramona, highs and lows, what do you have for us this go round?

Speaker 1

Well, I guess you know, related to field, since we're going to be talking about that, a high for me would be the fact that we're able to provide so many opportunities for groups to use our fields. The lows would be we have so few fields that we always have more groups that have a need than we have available space. So it's kind of a mixed bag, but we are very fortunate to be able to have access to a lot of space, a lot of outdoor activities, whether it's Cuff having the fields, recreation having the fields or parks having the fields. We are very fortunate in this county.

Field Availability and Maintenance Challenges

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll probably say that's a good one too for me. I think it's kind of a weird way to say highs in regards to fields, because I totally underestimated field usage. I didn't maybe because I grew up playing on fields and stuff like that. Fields are fields. A field is available, a field is there, but no, there is some protocol, there's some procedures when it comes to fields and athletic fields and there's no, really no low right now. I would just go with the fact that there's this, all this great stuff happening and trying to keep up with the county making sure everything is good to go with cuff. It's a lot, but we're working on it and it's great, it's great, it's great. So you know, ramona, we do have vanessa and ron here. You know they're back. You know it's almost like they never left. Ron, ron, ron. How are you doing Ron? Doing well, awesome, awesome. Do you have any kind of any lows or highs, any great things you want to talk about?

Speaker 3

I'd say the highs and lows are the grass height. This time of year, when we're still getting some cool temperatures and we're getting some rain and this year maybe a little more rain than normal the grass height is always a problem, and we have a variety of folks that go out and cut the grass at MCPS and then some with a parks contractor. It is a problem, but they're on top of it. They try to get to it, you know, every seven days, and we can just like pray for maybe a little less rain for the next two weeks and maybe not as cool evening temperatures, cause they tell me that is what causes the grass to take off, and sometimes day three or four after it was cut, it's like it was never cut, and so then it's got to wait three or four more days where they get back out there, and so I'd say that's how it was.

Speaker 2

Yeah, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow Vanessa.

Speaker 4

Hello.

Speaker 2

Do you have any kind of lows or some highs you want to talk about before we get started?

Speaker 4

I guess a high would be. I think I'm really looking forward to Memorial Day weekend.

Speaker 5

It's on Monday we're going to get a day off.

Speaker 4

Hopefully maybe barbecue and I don't know. The pools are going to be open, so that's a nice high for everybody. I think a lot of people are going to be off that day. And a low, I think, is just because we're nearing year end. We are limiting our purchases at Cuff, you know, for office supplies and such. So just that's a low, just you know. We have to wind down and close out everything and count your pencils. Yeah, we just have to wait till the new budget year comes but yeah, awesome, awesome, thank you for that.

Speaker 2

Bringing up Memorial. Okay, I'm bringing the holidays. I see where we are right now. I see where we at I like holidays too, so let's get into it. Let's get into it. Let's start off with a.

Understanding Athletic Field Types

Speaker 2

Did you know I have down? You know something simple, because I know we've been talking about it, but did you know Cuff has a customer care number, after hours number? Did you know we have an email? All of this information is available on our website InfoCuff, our locations, everything is available there for you to get some information. I'm just putting it out there so people will know. If you go to our website, go to Cuff, community use of public facilities. You can Google it. We're pretty much there at the top. You can just find us and get some information. You can listen to our podcast. You can just listen to all these wonderful people in this room and we'll give you some great information to get us started. Ron, I know I just mentioned did you know, customer care numbers and all that stuff. Is there anything about these numbers that stands out to you as an operations manager core services Do these numbers mean anything?

Speaker 3

I think these numbers are critical to our customers because if they don't have them available and they need something, they're going to struggle and get frustrated. So Monday through Friday during normal business hours, 830 am until 5 pm they can call 240-777-2725. And then if they have something after hours but after hours that line is a helpline. It's only for things that they need help with right there. That number is 240-490-CUPF or 240-490-2873.

Speaker 2

Yes, yes, yes, thank you for that too, ron. I left the numbers out and you came in strong with the numbers. Give us the numbers. They're very important and I want to say that again these numbers are very important and don't be afraid to use them. Use the numbers. Give Ron a call. No, I'm just playing with you. No, ron, do not, do not with you. No, ron, do not, do not, just give us a call. Check in with the core services, check in with Cuffin. If there's any information that you need in regards to all of these numbers from main office and everything like that, we're available to help in everything like that. Ramon, is there anything about these numbers that you've noticed that is just important to you, or they're just helpful, or is there something about them?

Speaker 1

No, I just would add that the, in addition to the numbers, we do have on our website, the ability for our customers to rate our services so that they can give us satisfaction rates, and that's important to us. We have to report to counsel on that. We have an accountability to ourselves on that. So we are concerned that people utilize those opportunities. We hope that it's going to be positive, but we are prepared to hear where there are concerns, because that's the only way we make improvements.

Speaker 2

Awesome, awesome, vanessa, is there anything about these numbers that stand out to you from the finance side?

Speaker 4

Just that. I see when people call in for the main line and then they get transferred to finance. So it's good for people to call that the main number for anything having to do with Cuff, and then they get sent to the correct team. So, even if it's like finance related or core services related, the person handling the main line will know who to transfer them to. So I think it's a good way to start, because sometimes people don't know what team they need to speak with and it's a good way for them to be transferred to the correct person in order to assist them.

Speaker 2

All right, all right, thank you, vanessa. I think this is going to be a pretty quick podcast, I think, so I'm just saying it out loud, just in case you're listening to it. It's like, well, what are they talking about today? What we're going to talk about is a little bit just about athletic fields, I would say athletic field usage, but we're just going to just kind of go around the conversation a little bit, go around the circle and just kind of talk about it. So, ramona, let's start off the conversation. Athletic fields what about athletic fields as a director? When I say athletic fields as the cuff director, what?

Speaker 2

does that mean to you.

Speaker 1

Athletic fields. I guess, as I said in my highs and lows, it means that there are going to be a lot of people wanting to have use, have access, so there's a high demand.

Speaker 1

I will say that there's also a high expectation that the fields be maintained and they can't always be maintained to the expectation of our users, which is unfortunate. But, as Ron mentioned, there are challenges to the mowing, there are challenges to the upkeep. Obviously, safety and security is our main priority, but there's even challenges to keeping grass on the field. I mean, it's hard to keep it mowed and it's also hard to keep it well-seeded because unfortunately, people go on the fields after it's rained. People go on the fields after it's rained, they'll have on cleats, they'll be playing sports that are very high contact and they'll kick up the grass and it'll be dirt, it'll be mud, even where we've had situations where parks has come in and seeded the fields and at the beginning of the season they look nice and fresh and within a couple of weeks they're messed up and they stay that way for the rest of the season because there's no additional funding or opportunity to close them down to do the maintenance that's needed. I will also say that we hear from the community often, because all of our schools are in bedded in our communities, so they're surrounded by houses, the neighborhood, and obviously there's a lot of people who normally maintain their own grass, their backyard, front yard, et cetera. They have a lot of nice equipment and they will often feel that they should be able to go on the field and cut the field when it gets above a certain level or it's not maintained to their expectations.

Speaker 1

And we have to caution and say no. Unfortunately we can't do that because there are liability issues, there's safety issues. We don't know what's in the grass. When we have someone who's contracted specifically for that, then they're covered by our liability insurance. They're covered, and I say ours, it's actually the school's because it's school property. But unfortunately we constantly have to tell people thank you for your support and your interest in helping, but we can't accept that service from you because it's not safe. But we do understand that the community has high expectations and wants to help and we appreciate that. So all of those things are going on in my mind when you mentioned fields, because I've had to take numerous phone calls, emails, text messages, all kinds of things related to that.

Speaker 2

Wow, wow, wow. And as we get through this and I had that unique locations I don't know if that's specific, ron, when I said unique, like something I have like high school, middle schools, elementary schools, is there? Is there a difference in that? I'm just writing it down, just writing that for my health.

Reservation Process and Field Usage

Speaker 3

Yeah there's definitely a difference. You know, high school fields are much larger and they're also often not available unless there's an artificial turf. And that's because the high schoolers have, you know, games and restrictions that they have to make sure that their field's in good condition when they're playing other teams from other areas, either in Montgomery County or outside Montgomery County, so they have to keep them up to a certain standard. Middle schools typically have good size fields but they are not always lined for each sport. There's a variety of sports that are played here in Montgomery County and they try park and planning really works to make sure that they're lined as much as possible based upon the normal usage of that field, which is hard to say what the normal usage is per season.

Speaker 1

Yeah, because there's cricket, there's soccer, there's football Exactly.

Speaker 3

There's all kinds of things going on and so they try their best to base it on use history. What we don't want is we don't want people going on the fields trying to line them themselves. That's not allowed, you cannot go on. We have it all the time and the school system does not allow it and it could cause somebody you know losing their permit at that facility if they go on there and do it themselves. So please don't do that. If you have a question about house line, email us and we'll reach out to parks or MCPS, whoever handles that field. Elementary school some of their fields are small. Some are not even considered athletic fields. They're so small. You know, most elementary schools only have one field. There are a few exceptions. Most middle schools have two or three, but there are some that have five or six. So we have about 400 fields total, maybe a little bit more than that throughout the county, wow, wow.

Speaker 2

So basically similar to what we were talking before just do your research in a community. If there's a school that stands out, I guess that makes it entertaining to pick that field specifically, for whatever reason and Vanessa just hopping around is there when we're talking about athletic fields and usage and Ron's talking about different schools. Is there something from a finance portion that gets your attention or is there something that you can talk about?

Speaker 4

I did want to mention that when our enterprise fund was nice and healthy prior to COVID, we did have additional resources that we had to reinvest into fields. We had a lot of. We had over a million dollars that we reinvested into field renovations prior to COVID. I think it was throughout maybe a three or four year span, and I know our fees are increasing and I'm not sure when our enterprise fund is going to get back to the 10% reserve. But I know once we start getting back a little bit above 10% reserve, we will reinvest money into different assets we have and that may include field renovations again as well. So that's something to look forward to in the future.

Speaker 4

Once we build back our reserve. Our enterprise fund is not where it needs to be. At the end of this year and even next year when we have the fee increase for FY26, we don't anticipate the enterprise fund to be back at the 10% reserve. But just so people bear in mind that when we do go back up to pre-COVID revenue and once we have a healthy enterprise fund again, that money could potentially be used to reinvest in field renovations, because I know that's something that people sometimes complain about that maybe the field should be in a different condition than it is. But we're limited in our funding, so there's not too much that we can do to help in that case, but in the future that's something that we'll definitely look into.

Speaker 2

Wow, wow. Thank you, vanessa and Ron as we jump through this. Like I said, this is a pretty good, strong, strong short podcast. We will make this good, ron. So when I joked before in the last podcast and I said, well, kind of walk me through what like what's next? So we're talking about fields, I know that there's grass and there's artificial. So from a core services standpoint, can you briefly walk me through? Like, all right, I want, I'm just making up a high school, seneca, like I see the high school, I want to reserve it. Is there a process to just get it going? Just active, montgomery, I assume. Or is there something from your standpoint, core services, that you can break down for a customer, if they're brand new to this?

Speaker 3

Yeah, everything is available in active Montgomery and it will show for the most part. It will show what is available and you can book it. When it comes to artificial turf, it's a little different. It's not giving you full availability. It is a request that comes to us and then we have to get clearance from the school to make sure that they don't need it, because the high school obviously gets first dibs on that field at their site and we have to make sure that they are not going to need it. Sometimes it's real quick and sometimes it may take a few days to get a firm answer so that they can give us the green light to issue the permit.

Speaker 2

Thank you, and I know we're going to bounce around to you, ramona, as well too, because we've talked about it briefly on our last podcast, but I think it's cool to repeat it again, just in case maybe I missed it. Maybe I missed it, but, ramona, so we're talking about all of this stuff and setting up and talking about field reservations From a director standpoint. How do you work through this? How do you work through this? How do you talk through this with somebody? If a new person was to email you about I just want to field director, how do I do this? Is there something that you've noticed that you just enjoy, or is this just things that you just want to talk about? In regards to athletic fields in general?

Field Maintenance and User Responsibilities

Speaker 1

I try to make them aware that there's distinctions between the grass field and the turf field, because often people will start out wanting the highest and then when they realize the price differential because turf fields are much more expensive than grass fields they'll say well, we could use a grass field. I also try to make them aware that when we make athletic fields available, that does not include restroom facilities. So they need to be cognizant of the fact that if they're doing something that's more than a couple of hours or they have a very young age group where there's a high probability they're going to need access to a bathroom, that they need to also permit indoor facilities and we can give them specific sections so that they're not having to permit the entire school or the entire classroom or hallway. They could just permit a space that would allow them access to the bathroom or bathrooms for male and female, and then they can be able to have access to a restroom if they think they're going to need it.

Speaker 1

And the field the fields also, I make them aware don't come with staff. So unless there's a specific request or you're having a large event that would need to have additional supports, you're just going to get the facility. You're just going to get the field. You're not going to get a staff member that's going to be there to pick up trash or that's going to be there to support any needs that you have events going on in the school at the same time that the school's going on. If there's an emergency or something that security is not available and you can't immediately find support, you could go into the school and request the building service worker's assistance. But as far as your permit, your permit's not going to include that for the use of a field.

Speaker 2

Wow, you made me think about playing sports growing up and having a bathroom access as a kid. All that G, gatorade and anyway, vanessa, is there anything else before we kind of move through? I know we're talking about just going through the reservation of fields and just talking points, but from the finance side, is there something about the field, certain field usage at schools, is there something that stands out from you?

Speaker 4

I think with the field use I've seen a lot of nonprofits apply for the fee facility assistance program. So we have seen a lot of our subsidy funds go to these type of reservations and since our fields are not that expensive, I think that the subsidy award goes a really long way when nonprofits apply for them. So I think that if any of the nonprofits are trying to reserve space and maybe they want to do more but maybe financially they can't, they can always feel free to apply for the fee facility assistance program and every year we reallocate funding, so there's a new pot of money every July 1st so they can go online and apply and a lot of the fields are all the fields are covered under the fee facility assistance program, so they can go online and apply. And a lot of the fields are all the fields are covered under the fee facility assistance program. So school fields.

Speaker 2

Nice, nice, nice, and I noticed that we bring up stuff and we're kind of hitting on certain points that we've talked about in previous podcasts and episodes. But you know, it's cool to listen. We got you, we're going to give you some great information and we hope that it will help you in preparing or reserving your next space or field or whatever else that you would be preferred as we go through this and I know that we try to close this out and I mentioned field maintenance, ron, I said artificial grass. I know that there's all of this stuff Ramona mentioned wearing certain, maybe cleats and stuff like that. Is there something about field maintenance or artificial grass fields that just will get ron to stand up and walk out of this room?

Speaker 3

seeing ramona wear these shiny cowboy boots that no one can see on the field would be a problem, but on a stage it'd be great. But but a lot of times the groups are using metal cleats. That is a big problem for field maintenance. It destroys the field quickly. A lot of times they are overusing them and they're staying beyond their permitted times, which just adds extra hours. In Montgomery County we try not to close our fields as frequently as other jurisdictions, which is great because they're still available to be used. The problem is it's harder on the turf and unfortunately that's where we end up with what Ramona was talking about. You end up with more dirt than grass and because they're overused and that's just a hard one to navigate when we have so much demand for our fields. Artificial turf fields are expensive but they cover staff, unlike the grass fields. They cover staff and they also cover significant amount of money reimbursed back to MCPS for future replacement of the artificial turf and maintenance on it.

Speaker 2

Wow, wow. And Ramon, I know I'm coming back to you because I know we've talked about it, but so let's get into some quick talking points. You know, as we talk about fields, let's talk about trash, littering, debris. Is that my responsibility if I have a field?

Bathroom Access and Facility Guidelines

Speaker 1

You are responsible for policing your own event, meaning you pick up after yourself. When you use those facilities I mentioned before, there's no staff member that is assigned, like when you use the indoor facility of a school. There's a building service worker there that does the trash and does the cleaning and makes sure that the facilities are available for the next user. But when you talk about fields you don't have that. So, yeah, you're responsible for your own.

Speaker 1

One of the things we've had to educate our communities about because, as I said, all our schools are in our communities, so you have surrounding houses that see what goes on, they see the trash, they see who's on the field and who's not on the field, and they frequently will think we have permitted the fields, when sometimes we haven't.

Speaker 1

We do leave hours available for walk-ons because it is a community field and so the community surrounding neighborhoods should have some time when they could just walk on and use the field. However, sometimes leagues or large groups will also take advantage of that. They'll see a field that's not permitted and they'll just permit themselves and we will see a large amount of trash from that and we'll see other things that aren't desirable from that and it's hard to help the community understand that we don't have the ability to police all of that and to go from field to field to make sure who's doing what. Now, if they contact us and say there's a problem going on, we will check our roster to see if it's permitted that week. If it's not, or it's not permitted for that hour, that event, then we will go and have security get them off. But again, it's more of a reactive than a proactive because we don't have the abilities to police it that way.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and Vanessa, I'm bouncing this to you, but I'm just saying it out loud to say that there's back-to-back usage. There is a lot of usage in Montgomery County and so, with that in mind, vanessa, is there something specific from a finance? So we're talking about just usage in general. You have trash pickup. Is there something that happens within a finance? Say, a group uses it and somebody catches wind. Is there something that happens that?

Speaker 4

is there something that happens that happens, or like do we police it and then give people tickets and citations.

Speaker 2

Is that what we do?

Speaker 5

No, no we don't.

Speaker 4

We don't do that. We we want people to make sure that they check to see if the facility, like we want people to log on to Active Montgomery and check to see if the field that they want is available. I mean, our fees are pretty, I think, inexpensive. But sometimes we have situations where there's someone on the field and someone does not have a permit, and then the permit holders do come and then they're saying like wait, we permitted the space, why are you guys here? And then we get a call, the after hours line gets a call, and then someone has to go out. So we do want people to be mindful that if you permit the space, the field, you know that you have the field and you don't have to worry about anybody coming and just taking it over. So that's something that we want people to just bear in mind that if you don't permit the space, you can go there. But there there's a possibility. Someone already has it.

Speaker 1

So just you will get kicked off exactly, yeah, so and, and.

Speaker 2

To close out this and sorry, vanessa, I don't want to cut you- off, if you were bringing in so much great information, you and Ron, just just just giving us knowledge.

Speaker 2

Last thing we want to talk about is there anything specific with bathrooms, like when you're using the field and I know from just in general, the access, because I'm bouncing between Rona, we'll just talk about this one more time when we're reserving a space and we want to use the field? Same with you, ron, is there what can we tell a group or organization, just to kind of gently remind them that you know, was it port-a-potties or like? Is there a specific term for that, do you? There's certain things you can and can't have. Is there something that you can talk about with that?

Speaker 1

Well, mcps has been very clear with us. As I said, they are the property owner, they own the real estate, they have delegated us with the authority to permit and so we have to follow their rules and their restrictions and they have very reasonable basis for prohibiting port-a-potties, basis for prohibiting porta-potties, and that is a security standpoint. There has been really negative experiences where they've been tipped over, they have been stolen, they've been damaged, set on fire.

Speaker 1

Set on fire. We've had all kinds of experiences in way past years, and so the recent by recent I mean the past, what? 10 years, 15 years? They haven't permitted them and we've been very clear with the permit holders or the people who are inquiring about using it, the community that we cannot permit them to bring porta potties on for their event, because some people are willing to incur that expense and have a commercial provider bring those on, but we don't permit that. And have a commercial provider bring those on, but we don't permit that. So we do encourage people, as I said earlier, to permit space within the school so that they would have access to facilities that way.

Speaker 2

Which is why we get back to what you said. Like you, just reserve a space and, you know, just use the bathrooms at the school. Ron, as we close out, is there something about? I know I keep saying porta potties.

Speaker 3

I don't know if that's the great way of saying it. Is there a correct way of saying this in a way from a core services team to say do or don't Always do your business in the building? Oh, I like that. And you can rent the restrooms directly. You don't need to rent any other space, just get a restroom, a set of restrooms, and we'll have staff there to make sure that they're clean and stocked. They'll get a restroom, a set of restrooms, and we'll have staff there to make sure that they're clean and stocked. They'll get a door open as close to that field area as they can so that it's quick and easy access in and out, boom.

Speaker 2

There it is. Thank you, ron. Thank you, ron, vanessa. I know we're just. We're just talking about maybe you know what, maybe we shouldn't, because it make me feel like I anyway porta potties, is there something about? Is there something about that conversation that may, you know, get your energy or get you caught up into something? Is there something about that conversation that we're having about using bathrooms and facilities?

Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks

Speaker 4

You know we used to have I think. I don't know if we had a contract, but I do remember having to pay for some, for some port-a-johns I think it was called port-a-johns and it was. It was a while ago, some years ago, at least five years ago and I do recall an incident where one was damaged. I don't know if it was a fire incident that Ron was speaking about, but yeah, I actually that's one less thing that we have to do, because we were receiving invoices every month for the port-a-jJohns and we would pay it out. So I'm actually happy that we don't have to do that little component of it. Restrooms are actually clean. Montgomery County Public Schools does a good job with cleaning their facilities, so I think that's a much cleaner and easier way. Not? I don't want to like say, maybe the Port-A-John businesses are listening. I'm not saying anything against your businesses.

Speaker 1

Maybe the port-a-johns are very clean, but I'm just saying that the MCPS restrooms are a good resource, Derek we should probably be clear that when we're talking about Silver Spring Civic Building, for example, there are port-a-potties, port-a-johns however you want to call them that are permitted there however you want to call them that are permitted there.

Speaker 1

They do have certain large events, festivals, outdoor events, that fairs whether it's a fair flea market, fair or whatever where they do allow the permit holder to rent a port-a-john with the company to bring them in, and they bring them in, they service them while they're there, like empty them and make sure they're clean, and then they take them away, and the person who is the permit holder is responsible for all of those contracts, because the county does not contract for them. There were, I think, maybe a few government events that Vanessa was mentioning. We had a contract to do that and that was in support of government functions that were happening. But any private functions that happen there are the responsibility of the permit holder. So that is the one location that we do allow the port-a-johns to be used.

Speaker 3

Okay, and there are rare times when you'll see them at schools, with a lot of steps that we've had to take to get special exception, it's only for government use. So, since Ramona's mentioned government, there are a few things that the government does. We have police then watching them throughout the night while they're sitting there so that they don't get damaged. Wow, Wow.

Speaker 2

And if anybody's asking, why is Derek bringing up all of this Porter John, porter Potty business, there's no reason at all. We're just talking about it. If you know why, then you know why. But we're just here talking about a good conversation, about just using facilities and fields. But thank you Ron, thank you Vanessa, thank you Ramona. Vanessa, do you have any good words to close us out with?

Speaker 4

Just that you know the weather is beautiful out there. I know a lot of kids are in sports and it's. Renting a field is a great way for family to get out, for kids to be involved in something, and I think it's great that we are all a part of facilitating field rentals.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, I'll jump in on that and say I agree, agree, yes, fields, fields, fields. That is a good question. That I get now from communications is a lot of questions about just general usage of fields, especially as the weather gets warm and when it's cold we don't really get that many questions out on, but I know when it gets warm and people have questions.

Speaker 2

So yeah, I'll probably close out and say once again, thank you. Thank you to everybody, thank you Vanessa, thank you Ron, thank you Ramona. This was great, great opportunity to get a chance to talk about some athletic field usage. But, ron, do you have any words?

Speaker 3

to talk. I would say just make sure that you leave it how you find it. Take the trash with you, because that's one of the biggest complaints we get.

Speaker 4

Wow, you are coming up with.

Speaker 2

Some are these quotes you're coming up with you should write a book. You should say right, yeah, yeah, ramona, I'm sorry, ramona.

Speaker 1

Can you call this out? Just enjoy yourselves. When you decide that you need to use our services, our facilities, then we're here and we're more than happy to facilitate whatever we can.

Speaker 2

Awesome, Awesome. Thank you everybody. See you next time.

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